Kyary responding to a Moroccan fan’s message saying that she loves wearing kimono but doesn’t really wear it out since overseas people are a bit surprised by it and think she’s doing cosplay (rather than appreciating something she feels really connected to that comes from another part of the world).
I love Kyary so much. She keeps me going most of the time, but I would not let her speak about what is or isn’t cultural appropriation
Hello, thank you for adding onto my post. I’m actually glad you brought this up because I was thinking about it at work today.
I’d like to open up a discussion with my followers about this, because I’m baffled by how little context people seem to need to decide that someone is being a bad person for wearing something outside of their culture (and also because I’m not particularly smart or experienced in this area and my followers are usually a lot more knowledgeable than me!).
This isn’t an attack on your response, but just something I really would like to discuss to hear from different people about how they feel about this, because there’s so much misinformation on this website about what constitutes as racist cultural appropriation.
This ended up being a long post but I hope that it provides adequate context and/or insight? Gahh. I’m talking about a few topics here.
I’ll start with my own background about this post, because context is always important, I shared this originally because I’m not only a big fan of Kyary but I’ve been a Japanese language student for 7 years now. I lived in Japan for a little bit when I was 19 to improve my speaking skills. I’m currently back in Japanese school and having a blast!
Though… I’m honestly on edge about the day sensei will tie my kimono for a school recital, just like when I was a teenager at that school, because I know that according to a lot of people on this website, the color of my skin, eyes and hair is the only context they need before deciding that a non-Japanese girl wearing kimono (or spending so much time and effort on the language) is simply racist cultural appropriation, no buts about it.
Not only would it be extremely shitty to judge my actions solely by which race I appear to be—which is ambiguous most of the time, I’m Chinese/Costa Rican/Irish/huge Euromix all over the place, though I don’t look “not-white”, so I only get judged by that, which is… really unfair. I mean people literally thought my mother wasn’t my real mother growing up because she looks Asian and Hispanic and I do not, at all. To have my ethnicity and heritage dismissed and erased because I only “look white” is frustrating as hell. Honestly most of the time it’s only ever been white people that told me to stop identifying as the actual races I am made up of simply because I don’t look like those races.Which is seriously… freaking… racist???
It makes me really sad to see so many kids on this site boil it down to “You’re not allowed to dress outside of your culture. At all.”.
Which is extra confusing considering most alternative fashion subcultures in Japan—Are Japanese girls being racist when they wear blonde wigs and give themselves white-sounding nicknames—like Carrie/Kyary? Someone please explain the double standard to me because I’m honestly confused. I am not in any way trying to say that cultural appropriation doesn’t exist, because it most certainly does, but it troubles me that literally no one is allowed to wear anything belonging to a different ethnicity without being called out on it, yet I’ve never ever EVER seen anyone talk about Japanese fashion subcultures where girls literally want to look like Victorian dolls, where they are appropriating (fancy that, the meaning isn’t always negative) actual Victorian and lots of Rococo into a whole new kind of fashion.
If white people did the same thing with traditional fashion from another ethnicity that isn’t categorized as white, we would be angry, right?
And I totally get why, but if those subcultures aren’t cultural appropriation, then why aren’t they? Is it because of the oppressor versus oppressed frame? Where does Kyary, as a Japanese idol born and raised in Japan, who likes fashion and changing her appearance often, who represents soooo many different companies and products (like curry, for instance)—fit into oppressor versus oppressed? Where do Japanese lolitas and gyaru fit into that? I’m genuinely asking, because I’m confused.
We know by now that the second photo was from a photoshoot for a curry advertisement. The second one I haven’t seen the final product for so I can’t really talk about it, hrmm.
But I’m just confused as to how two completely out of context posts by a Japanese pop star who was born and raised in Japan sharing wardrobe shots from her shoots (especially considering the first one on her instagram was captioned with “Cleopatra”) counts as racist cultural appropriation on Kyary’s part.
Another thing too is… Like. I just got back from set. I work as an actor and a model. In my case, I agree to jobs that I am lucky enough to book out of hundreds of other girls, because I need to pay the bills just like everyone else. Just this week I actually had to cancel one of my five (5!!!!!!!) doctor appointments because at the moment I literally cannot afford it. Tomorrow I have 3 more appointments. Yep, all in one day. Those are the only ones I could afford, and I can still barely afford them. Those copays and possibly medication are going to bring my bank account pretty low since one of my modeling jobs from two months ago still hasn’t paid me even though I’m all over their website representing them!
Most of the time, I don’t know what I’m wearing or what I’m even doing until I get to set or even until I’m literally about to step in front of the camera. Productions are rushed. Sometimes my agent calls me at 11:59 PM and says CAN YOU WORK FOR THIS ARTIST’S MUSIC VIDEO IT PAYS $175 and I have to decide right then. A lot of the time, I have no idea if I’m showing up to be some random girl in the background on her iPad or a zombie or an important character that has to cry on camera (LOLZ U HAVE 3 MINUTES TO PREPARE FOR YOUR ROLE, GO!).
Someone recently gave me flack for my little featured extra role in Katy Perry’s newest video. Because Katy’s productions do… pretty much have some gross things in them. But me jumping on a trampoline for Katy’s video has literally nothing to do with whether or not she makes every final decision on her products (she, like Kyary, is also a big voice in her very own productions, but that doesn’t mean she decides everything).
This person kinda implied that I shouldn’t have taken the job because of dignity or whatever and it was incredibly offensive considering that was my first job after 5 months of being too ill to work, and even right now I’m still struggling day to day with my health. I’m about to get my handicapped parking thing. I am way off topic.
Point about this bit is, I’m an actor, I booked the job, I earned it and I did freaking great that day and it has nothing to do with Katy other than the people that hired me are the people her people hired to hire people to jump on a freaking trampoline in front of a green screen. Would you say all of the cameramen and makeup artists and assistants and nervous film school grads on their first shoot should have been like “NAH I AIN’T OPERATING A CAMERA—THE THING I SPECIFICALLY WENT TO SCHOOL FOR—FOR A PRODUCTION TEAM THAT KATY PERRY’S PRODUCTION TEAM HIRED TO MAKE A SILLY VIDEO ABOUT PARTYING, FUQ U I’M NOT TAKING THE JOB”.
Honestly, if anyone does, then I just want them to know how lucky they are that they could realistically turn a huge job like that down in the area of their profession. You must have good money!
Again, the point. Sorry: We do not have the context to know if Kyary designed those outfits, or specifically asked for them, or what. All we know is that she modeled in these two outfits, and that the India one was literally just for a curry advertisement. Unless there is exact specific context and people are just forgetting to share for some reason.
So what I am asking is how is that information, two photos and one curry ad, enough context to go cry appropriation and shake our fingers at Kyary and decide that she shouldn’t be talking about cultural appropriation (which she actually… wasn’t! If you watch the episode linked above, you’ll see she was responding to a fan from overseas who feels self conscious about wearing kimono in her town because people just think she’s cosplaying when she’s actually genuinely in love with kimono and had been collecting them since she was a little girl, and knew lots about them!).
A bigger artist like Kyary would definitely know more about each project than I do about mine, because generally those are all roles made just for her, she doesn’t really have to audition like I do, y’know?
In all likelihood, her manager got a call: “Hey, would Kyary like to model for a curry advertisement?”
Once confirmed they set the date, got Kyary’s measurements. If there wasn’t a date needed for a fitting since it looks like a pretty precise shoot in terms of what they knew they needed, then she most likely showed up to the photo studio, said hello to the photographer and producers, and then got put in that outfit and some makeup and then had the shoot. She probably stuffed her face with some really fancy snacks they put out (maybe even their curry brand for her to enjoy), and then she changed and bowed goodbye to everyone, thanking them for their hard work, and headed home or to another shoot (since the poor girl is seriously overworked, pfff).
I’ve been working professionally now for a few years. I did have to take some breaks because of my illnesses.
Idunno. Maybe that’s why I’m more thoughtful before I scream cultural appropriation.
Because it’s baffling to me that people see those photos and think that they know exactly what is going on in someone’s head when they wear/do something/eat something/learn something/celebrate something/practice something/hell, breathe something that doesn’t match up to the region most associated with their skin, eye and hair color.
Alright, wheeze, sorry.
I didn’t even notice this the first time around, but Osiris looks really weird standing on his tiny little back legs like that.
ew what lmfao that’s so WEIRD
I didn’t even know HE HAD BACK LEGS???
MY LIFE IS A LIE
I was trying to remember what this reminded me of and then